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Post by Redd on Nov 29, 2012 22:05:58 GMT -5
Anyways, have you been thinking about the Battle of Hogwarts coming up? I have! I thought that I would post this thread to help plan things beforehand, if you want to, especially if it involves killing someone off, or requesting someone to kill someone of yours off. Or maybe you want to save someone who originally died! However for each life you save from original death, most times it will cost another character's death, unless it's a special case.
I already have a plan of how to save Snape, but unfortunately it costs me one of my characters, who is near and dear to many future folk.
As for Remus and Tonks, I think a Teddy plan may take place, but at the same time, I don't want Teddy to die. If anyone want to save these two and have a plan, I'm open to it. I could also seriously injure Teddy in place of saving one of them, which I do see happening.
Everard is going to be completely torn, but I'm not sure what else he'll do.
Tom I'm planning to fight with Tristan and try to smack sense into his father, and if there are any plans with either, I can manipulate this situation easily to accommodate.
Jacob is going to have a heated battle with Phineas, either killing, maiming, or seriously injuring Phineas, and the same with Jacob. Don't think he'll die, but my muse can be really evil in the heat of the moment.
Scorp is going to be healing people, and fighting, nothing too specific for him.
Harry younger is going to do all his canon things, while Harry senior is going to be fighting and trying to save those who died previously.
Aaron... I dunno what to do with him during it, whether he joins the battle or not I dunno.
So... yeah. Plan away my friends!
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Post by Nymphadora "Tonks" Lupin on Nov 30, 2012 2:54:45 GMT -5
Alright, here we go.
Tonks, well I hope to save her. Maybe Sophie and Teddy can kill Remus's killer before hand and be like protectors.
I can Sophie maybe losing some of her memory from a blow to the head. Any takers?
Analiese will most likely be fighting.
I think I'm gonna have Ariana killed off, her killer is open.
George, we all know lives. Not gonna change that. Canon stuff mainly.
Etta will be healing, probably will end up fighting at some point to help Tom because she's just that kind of person.
Mikeal will be incapacitated I believe, he got hit early on and is temporarily paralyzed. Older him will be fighting. Trying to keep his kids and Eliza alive.
Kandace won't be fighting... she will be keeping tabs and such. And doing a bit of healing here and there.
I will edit when I think of everyone else.
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Post by Redd on Nov 30, 2012 7:56:40 GMT -5
Yeah I do want Remus and Tonks to live as well. If there are no takers to Arianna, I can offer Tristan, but it doesn't matter to me And I forgot to add: Fred, dies in the canon, so, unless someone swoops to his rescue, such as Lisette, which Arye and I have slightly discussed. Lyra is going to be sneaking around and watching the battle, and herself, who escaped to the Three Broomsticks. She'll also probably see Greyback and loose it a bit and attack that man who made her a werewolf. There is also another character I might make before the battle, just depends on a lot of things. He's almost complete anyways, but he'd be on the Order's side, as his family, which he is searching for is on the Order's side, and his 'Master' would be fighting against him, trying to get him back. Then his other personality might take over and try to join the other side. But then his main personality would fight the other one and there is this big internal conflict. He is a bit of a Greg as a character though, in his main personality and condition.
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Post by Arye Tyler on Nov 30, 2012 20:38:02 GMT -5
Well, I actually had the idea of a subplot where Fred and Lisa discover that Lisette is who their baby grows into just before the battle and then she dies where Fred would have during it.
Now, Lisa...
She was actually killed by Eliza's Death Eater uncle during the battle when she got separated from Fred in the original storyline, actually before Fred died. One of the Weasleys then killed Eliza's uncle. Unless someone from the future interferes, that might still occur, or maybe it won't. That's up for debate.
Eliza did not originally die during the battle, and she won't now. She will, however, be fighting a lot in an effort to support Harry and protect Mikael since I think she was nearby when he was incapacitated. She and Vash will just sort of do their thing.
Ana originally found herself fighting Draco at some point in the original battle, which she barely survived. If we continue into the future, what remains to be seen is if she'll lose use of her legs like she did originally. I also intend to make her and Marc's daughter. Anyone wanna play their son?
The Cavaliere are an interesting bunch. History is really fluctuating around them right now. Certain Cavaliere, like Mari for example, survived the original battle while others like Gabe died. I think that we could probably work something out for Gabe's survival. Pyre (or Angelina) obviously survives, so nothing to change there. Talon will get badly injured but survive, same with Jared. As for the others...well, you'll see. I'll be willing to help with that plot to save Snappers, Redd.
Yukiyo will be present and deadly at the battle, displaying those awesome samurai-skills of hers. So will Daisuke and Satsu. Satsu may or may not die, it all really depends on a lot.
Erm...anyone else you want to know about?
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Post by Redd on Nov 30, 2012 21:59:03 GMT -5
Woot! For Snappers, I was planning on having one of my future people save Snape through a scene where the character reveals who they are in the present and how they respect Snape very much and how it is a truly good death on how to die. Now actually getting to that point would be very hard for this character, so some help there would be extremely great. This character would be trying to avoid the fighting, and the people from this time during the battle, besides perhaps a couple of people who died before, but their primary goal is to get to Snape. Oh and this character will most definitely die. 100% sure they will. And it will be sad.
I do need to kill off a few others, because I do have a lot, and since three originally died, and only 1 I know for sure will die... and I think among the more likely for me to kill off would be Tom, Jake (especially if Harper dies, then his probability increases), Lyra (though for plot purposes she has a better chance of living then the others on this list), Teddy (But I love him sooooo much), and Scorp (because I haven't really had any real relationships with others established, but he's still pretty low on the kill list... sort of).
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Post by Arye Tyler on Nov 30, 2012 23:40:37 GMT -5
I did a pairing with Mari and Snappers on another site that I think could be an interesting little subplot here. They developed feelings for each other but wound up never getting together because Snape was scared of committing. I felt bad for both of them. On the subject of Lisette... I think that I won't kill Lisa if I kill Lisette. It would unfair to lose Fred to lose his daughter (even if it is just the grown-up Liz) and her mother all in the same day. Kind of like "Oh, you cheated death? WELL BE FOREVER ALONE, NOW." I hate that. What do you think?
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Post by Redd on Dec 1, 2012 10:30:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I do like the idea of Snappers getting into a relationship, though it will take time. It would show how he has finally moved past his love for Lily and accept that she won't ever come back. It doesn't mean he wouldn't carry on his duty of protecting Harry and doing as Dumbledore wants because Lily is and forever will be special to him.
That would be terrible! Fred would be so very sad, and his attempt at jokes that just didn't work would be a very big indicator on that... And he'd be jealous of his twin who's love didn't die and didn't loose a daughter from the future in the battle. So anyways, yeah, I would love that at least one of them not dying.
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Post by Arye Tyler on Dec 1, 2012 13:34:28 GMT -5
The other issue with MarixSev that appeared on the other site was that Vinny was Snapper's best friend. Snape was Vinny's best man at their wedding; he got in and out of trouble with him throughout their Hogwarts years; Snape was even really close with Vin's parents before they passed away, too. They were pretty much like brothers, so Mari felt like she was cheating and Snape felt like he was betraying Vinny's trust. I think that, ultimately, they would have realized that Vin would've wanted them both to be happy and gotten together, but it would've taken a while.
I mean, if Lisa died, Fred would've still had current-time Lisette, but that would still be so sad! I think what I'll wind up doing is having future-Lisette save Fred and then tell him that he needs to go help Lisa before she died. What originally happened was that Lisa got separated from Fred and wound up in a duel with Eliza's Death Eater uncle. She held her own for a while, but she ultimately lost. When Fred died, Lisa was still alive; she actually managed to survive all the way up to one of the Weasleys (I think it was Bill or Charlie) stumbling across her and killing Eliza's uncle, but she'd been injured badly and died before they could get her to a Healer.
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Post by Redd on Dec 1, 2012 14:30:08 GMT -5
Yeah, I understand how that could have happened. And I probably would've had something like that for a little bit, but then, of course he would realize what Vinny would have wanted with them. If they truly did feel that way towards each other he'd want happiness. I think that the one who saves him probably finds out about how they feel and try to convince him otherwise. The one who saves him studies him a lot while at school now. I think that if they don't get together before the battle, after cheating death Snappers would give in and the two probably would get together then. I still think those two would be very interesting.
True, but then again, Fred would be a single parent, who is very clueless about how to raise a child, even though he is very excited. Though Lisette would be better off with Fred and Lisa raising her... Poor Teddy loosing his favorite chocolate vender... I do like the idea, and so, I think it's a good plan for that.
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Post by Arye Tyler on Dec 1, 2012 14:43:59 GMT -5
I think that Mari will ultimately take an assistant/observer role in Hogwarts, leading to the person that saves Snape being able to examine both of them. Mari is, admittedly, probably pretty hard to read; she's lived most of her life in a state of war (interestingly, the latest Italian Civil War continues on for several years after the Battle of Hogwarts) and tends to be good at hiding what she's thinking/feeling.
Lisette probably would be better off. XD That's what I'll do, then. Future-Lisette will die in Fred's place, warn him as to how Lisa died. I think that it'll probably be her cousin Griffin (who came back in time with her and lives in the apartment above the shop with her) who buys them enough time to prevent Lisa's death.
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Post by Redd on Dec 1, 2012 16:42:25 GMT -5
Yeah, I figured. This person actually has been told about Snapper's 'goodness' for a long time, never knew about it until Harry Senior found out and spread the word around the resistance about it. Always admired this person when they found out about Snape loyalty and how it was Dumbledore's orders to kill Dumbledore. So, they really do want to save Snape out of everyone that died normally, and thus hatched a plan to save him. He'd probably have a hard time reading Mari, and probably Snape, but since he knows about Snape's true loyalties, he/she could try and wriggle their way into Snape's mind. I see Snape and this person not getting along, yelling at each other, and such as their personalities clash a lot. I dunno if I should reveal who it is... but either way, I do like the idea of saving Snape with this person, and telling him before that he really should go and fight with 'that pretty little lady' that he fancies.
It still is sad to kill off any of the characters... It's actually funny because in my massive trove of characters (which is a consolidation of Skittles's, Greg's, James's and my own characters) there is a Griffin who actually is almost a paragon of evil. I feel bad for Jake if Harp does go, though I am thinking of killing off Jake anyways... Just think if Tom dies and Harp die, Etta would be so very heartbroken.
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Post by Arye Tyler on Dec 1, 2012 16:53:32 GMT -5
I reeaaaalllllyyyyy wanna know who this person is!! XD And Mari would probably be intensely offended if she found out that anyone called her "pretty little lady." I imagine her and Snappers sitting down weeks or months after the battle and finally getting to talk, and that being when they get together. Then Mari would have to go back to Italy to help with the continuing Civil War, but she doesn't die, don't worry. XD
I would feel so horrible for Jake! Especially because it would probably be his cousin that kills Harp! DX I probably won't kill her, though, just have her injured badly. Now, Talon. She hates Death Eaters ever since her mom died, so I imagine that she and Tristan would be on opposite sides of the battle. What is an interesting thing to ponder is if they'd fight each other.
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Post by Redd on Dec 1, 2012 17:03:15 GMT -5
Well, if you guess it right, then I would tell you that you're right, but otherwise you'll have to wait. Oh yeah, and Snape would try to convince her not to go, and then she would refuse to not go. He'd probably try to help out, while helping with the reconstruction and his own problems in England. lol true! If I were to kill of Jake it wouldn't be by Phin's hand though. I could see Jake disabling Phin, then trying to help Harp, as she's injured, and then, if my muse is mean, Bellatrix come in, and kill him. Though, that probably won't happen, and I just thought of that, so just in case I haven't decided by then, I still have a choice. I don't think I will though... As for Tristan and Talon, he'd probably try and convince her differently, saying how the Order was the evil ones and the DA killed his only real friend, and only person besides her he could stand. She'd probably think he was an idiot, and Tristan would feel betrayed. After the battle, the two could meet up, and depending on the side that wins (which will nearly 100% be Order, unless a character royally screws things up), Tristan would probably admit that he was an idiot, and how he was sorry, and then the two would rebuild their relationship from there. In the future he didn't admit he was an idiot, but he wanted to get back together, because he didn't want politics to get in the way.
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Post by Arye Tyler on Dec 1, 2012 17:13:42 GMT -5
Grrr...I guess I'll have to wait. Is it one of your characters that already exists?
Harper would be furious when she finally regained conciousnes. She'd probably never get into another relationship, though; she really does love Jake. As for Talon and Tristan, the better question is if they'd physically fight each other. Tal wouldn't want to hurt him, but she'd probably fight back if he attacked her. I imagine this scene where Tristan comes to the Salla after the battle to talk to Tal and she refuses to even look at him, and things of that nature happening repeatedly for a few years.
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Post by Redd on Dec 1, 2012 17:25:34 GMT -5
Yes, it is! Some one I have developed a lot, though not really in posts, just in my mind I've developed this person a lot.
Yeah, again, I probably won't kill him, though a battle between him and Bellatrix sounds like a very interesting scene, where he is saved by one of my characters who will live, and flee once Jake takes Harp and go. That's very true. I don't think Tristan would want to injure her either, and he would give her the chance to leave and then they wouldn't have to fight. He just believes she has yet to understand the Death Eaters. And the visiting the Salla I could see as well. He would be bitter after the battle and how they lost, but, given his young and sway-able mind, he would eventually come to realize the evil in the Death Eaters and he would try to convince Talon that he changed after that epiphany. Tristan really isn't an evil guy, nor one who really truly believes in either side, but after his best friend was killed by what he was told the DA, while actually being the Death Eaters, he doesn't trust the Order or DA or anyone on their side, besides Talon.
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